kdag,
I wasn't contesting anything you reported of your own experience. My point was only that based on data contained in this forum, there is ample evidence of organized harassment in the context of groups we are choosing to call cults.
Your point has consistently been that this harassment has crossed over into your personal space, and in every sense of that term.
As for remedies, and why just calling the police may not be an option:
I have a dear friend who fulfilled his life goal. He wanted to become a dentist and practice in a small town. Coincidentally, and because it is a very small town, he also became the community's sheriff. That town is located in AZ and on Utah border. My friend tells me that at least once a month, a female or females (group) present in his office complaining of serious dental maladies, which turn out to not exist. These are Mormon women who come cross the border and ask him for 'help' in escaping the LDS. Why don't they just go to their local law enforcement?
My friend describes the LDS as "a global open air woman's prison."
My point is that there seems to be high tolerance for certain cults, coercive influence groups in the U.S., and this would include groups that do not claim religious exemption, e.g. Landmark.
On surveillance -- I would like to say that this can take a lot of forms. In my own case, I never discuss business activities in ANY circle, or with any individuals beyond my closest collaborators, EVER. This means no practice discussions, no sharing case studies with peers, no disclosure of research activities. I would not even share an 'idea' at a conference...nothing, nowhere, ever again.
There is a difference between gathering market intelligence, and being mindful of your competitors, and the gathering of that information and sharing it among groups that are cultic'ally-oriented and organized. And, it ain't even about 'business'.
bakkagirl
I wasn't contesting anything you reported of your own experience. My point was only that based on data contained in this forum, there is ample evidence of organized harassment in the context of groups we are choosing to call cults.
Your point has consistently been that this harassment has crossed over into your personal space, and in every sense of that term.
As for remedies, and why just calling the police may not be an option:
I have a dear friend who fulfilled his life goal. He wanted to become a dentist and practice in a small town. Coincidentally, and because it is a very small town, he also became the community's sheriff. That town is located in AZ and on Utah border. My friend tells me that at least once a month, a female or females (group) present in his office complaining of serious dental maladies, which turn out to not exist. These are Mormon women who come cross the border and ask him for 'help' in escaping the LDS. Why don't they just go to their local law enforcement?
My friend describes the LDS as "a global open air woman's prison."
My point is that there seems to be high tolerance for certain cults, coercive influence groups in the U.S., and this would include groups that do not claim religious exemption, e.g. Landmark.
On surveillance -- I would like to say that this can take a lot of forms. In my own case, I never discuss business activities in ANY circle, or with any individuals beyond my closest collaborators, EVER. This means no practice discussions, no sharing case studies with peers, no disclosure of research activities. I would not even share an 'idea' at a conference...nothing, nowhere, ever again.
There is a difference between gathering market intelligence, and being mindful of your competitors, and the gathering of that information and sharing it among groups that are cultic'ally-oriented and organized. And, it ain't even about 'business'.
bakkagirl