Asmallbitofguidence...I'm rather curious as to how you found your way onto this forum given that your involvement was over 20years ago. Why the sudden interest?
You clearly come across as a 'foot soldier'. Quoting stats, ratios and giving us your guidelines on who should or shouldn't attend. The very same guidelines that just happen to be in the forms you sign before undertaking this life changing event. Which is basically an indemnity and giving up your rights to persue any legal action. To top it off your recommendation to seek expert help for those who have come away scarred.
If this operation has been running for over 40+ years then shouldn't they be the experts on who is eligible and fits the criteria for a 'one size fits all ' transformation experience. As you mentioned it's not for everyone.
My daughter, Asmallbitofguidence was not as lucky as you were. At the time of attending these workshops she was 'bright and bubbly displaying all the exuberance a young person does just as they're making their way into adulthood. I have a beautiful memory of her a week before she started the course. As a parent looking at their child and thinking ' WOW it's happening she's almost there ' from that vision to the one llunga describes of having the carpet pulled from under her feet. My daughter is an absolute wreck.
So tell me with all of the money they're making what systems do they have in place for people like my daughter or others that have come out damaged. It's a con...you bought into. What you paid for was for a group of people to humiliate you with your very personal information. Required info. that you would not ordinarily share with total strangers.
Baruch in his very aggressive narcissistic manner and Royee Mr. One upmanship. The element of fear lingering around and having them drive it into your very core. Scared and paranoid. Making you responsible and blaming you for all that is wrong on earth. If you're honest with yourselves you'll admit that you paid a lot of money and received absolutely 'Nothing'. Having paid for and completed all three workshops were you shown your life's purpose? You were emotionally crushed and physically exhausted. Baruch is ex Israeli Special forces so he knows all about putting you through your paces.
Their vision statement ' Providing a world that is conducive for children to be born into ' is this a bad joke? Because clearly the joke is on the participants...are they charitable and compassionite. Who are they helping apart from filling up their own coffers.
I'm angry and I'm no closer to finding relief for my daughter. She's been hospitalized twice now. Misdiagnosed
medicated on schedule 7 drugs. PTSD on this level is not the 'normal' terrain for psychologists in SA. In fact 99% of them are clueless. Everybody knows what the word cult means but do they have an idea of the operations...So you tell me please what are the alternatives? Five years on and she's still going through psychosis locked in her room trying to find her way...My child doesn't even have a smile. How do they get away with destroying a young person's life.
My daughter was a kind sensitive soul call her fragile if you like. No underlying issues. She believed that something 'magical' was going to happen...
Why all the secrecy? We demand transparency in all areas of our lives as building blocks for trust and relationship. How can we be so blinded and promote this kind sickness. Not just for my daughter but for everybody else who has or will be duped by these charlatans.
Asmallbitofguidence and Llunga what ever you did after the workshops you achieved for your self. There was no epiphany no 'life's purpose ' or transformation. At least be real about that to yourself. These people do not have special 'gifts". The 'high' you felt is gone now...lack of sleep blah blah I could go on.
You clearly come across as a 'foot soldier'. Quoting stats, ratios and giving us your guidelines on who should or shouldn't attend. The very same guidelines that just happen to be in the forms you sign before undertaking this life changing event. Which is basically an indemnity and giving up your rights to persue any legal action. To top it off your recommendation to seek expert help for those who have come away scarred.
If this operation has been running for over 40+ years then shouldn't they be the experts on who is eligible and fits the criteria for a 'one size fits all ' transformation experience. As you mentioned it's not for everyone.
My daughter, Asmallbitofguidence was not as lucky as you were. At the time of attending these workshops she was 'bright and bubbly displaying all the exuberance a young person does just as they're making their way into adulthood. I have a beautiful memory of her a week before she started the course. As a parent looking at their child and thinking ' WOW it's happening she's almost there ' from that vision to the one llunga describes of having the carpet pulled from under her feet. My daughter is an absolute wreck.
So tell me with all of the money they're making what systems do they have in place for people like my daughter or others that have come out damaged. It's a con...you bought into. What you paid for was for a group of people to humiliate you with your very personal information. Required info. that you would not ordinarily share with total strangers.
Baruch in his very aggressive narcissistic manner and Royee Mr. One upmanship. The element of fear lingering around and having them drive it into your very core. Scared and paranoid. Making you responsible and blaming you for all that is wrong on earth. If you're honest with yourselves you'll admit that you paid a lot of money and received absolutely 'Nothing'. Having paid for and completed all three workshops were you shown your life's purpose? You were emotionally crushed and physically exhausted. Baruch is ex Israeli Special forces so he knows all about putting you through your paces.
Their vision statement ' Providing a world that is conducive for children to be born into ' is this a bad joke? Because clearly the joke is on the participants...are they charitable and compassionite. Who are they helping apart from filling up their own coffers.
I'm angry and I'm no closer to finding relief for my daughter. She's been hospitalized twice now. Misdiagnosed
medicated on schedule 7 drugs. PTSD on this level is not the 'normal' terrain for psychologists in SA. In fact 99% of them are clueless. Everybody knows what the word cult means but do they have an idea of the operations...So you tell me please what are the alternatives? Five years on and she's still going through psychosis locked in her room trying to find her way...My child doesn't even have a smile. How do they get away with destroying a young person's life.
My daughter was a kind sensitive soul call her fragile if you like. No underlying issues. She believed that something 'magical' was going to happen...
Why all the secrecy? We demand transparency in all areas of our lives as building blocks for trust and relationship. How can we be so blinded and promote this kind sickness. Not just for my daughter but for everybody else who has or will be duped by these charlatans.
Asmallbitofguidence and Llunga what ever you did after the workshops you achieved for your self. There was no epiphany no 'life's purpose ' or transformation. At least be real about that to yourself. These people do not have special 'gifts". The 'high' you felt is gone now...lack of sleep blah blah I could go on.