Original question may be old; the issue stays relevant.
I knew people involved in both in the 1980s.
I read Jose Silva's book, and it seemed harmless and like what doctors say about most natural remedies: can't hurt, might help.
All I remember is him describing the difference between people like his wife who are primarily visual (an NLP term he didn't use) all hyped up and in a hurry to get out skiing, and people who process a different way, like himself, moseying around getting ready for skiing, no big rush.
Nothing wrong with that!
And him recommending saying "Cancel, cancel" after you catch yourself in a "negative" (let's just call it painful or harmful) thought.
I don't know that it works, but self-awareness about one's own thinking and making choices about it seems useful.
It seems all about controlling one's own mind.
If people out there did otherwise, then - charlatan alert!
On the other hand....
The same group hosted a life teacher I knew for 33 years, and though his classes weren't about using NLP, he brought it up often, had studied all the way through with Richard and Leslie, talked about it a lot, and was a genuine master - as in extremely skilled mastery, not some title you buy after a few weeks of expensive classes - probably surpassing them.
He said that:
(1) It only worked at the brain firing pattern level, powerful enough, but lots of us believe that there is more to us than only a brain and body that dies.
(2) They taught only technique, no value system - or ethics.
After maybe 15 years, I was there when he told us all that after all his NLP experience, he was warning us away from it and its practitioners. He said, "NLP is done without ethics, it is misused, it is doing harm, it is black magic. I officially withdraw all endorsement."
This was someone who, with his skill, could probably have had groupies (disciples? Hey there, Gary's harem over at Access Consciousness!) or gotten rich and famous off it.
Last tidbit: I paid one time only to go to the woman then second to Leslie Bandler for one private appointment. She name-dropped "my friend Leslie" in a high-schooler like manner. I have never seen even a simple master's-degree college counselor get emotional and upset, so unprofessionally like that, at something I said.
Or... is it something I refused to be manipulated by?
I knew people involved in both in the 1980s.
I read Jose Silva's book, and it seemed harmless and like what doctors say about most natural remedies: can't hurt, might help.
All I remember is him describing the difference between people like his wife who are primarily visual (an NLP term he didn't use) all hyped up and in a hurry to get out skiing, and people who process a different way, like himself, moseying around getting ready for skiing, no big rush.
Nothing wrong with that!
And him recommending saying "Cancel, cancel" after you catch yourself in a "negative" (let's just call it painful or harmful) thought.
I don't know that it works, but self-awareness about one's own thinking and making choices about it seems useful.
It seems all about controlling one's own mind.
If people out there did otherwise, then - charlatan alert!
On the other hand....
The same group hosted a life teacher I knew for 33 years, and though his classes weren't about using NLP, he brought it up often, had studied all the way through with Richard and Leslie, talked about it a lot, and was a genuine master - as in extremely skilled mastery, not some title you buy after a few weeks of expensive classes - probably surpassing them.
He said that:
(1) It only worked at the brain firing pattern level, powerful enough, but lots of us believe that there is more to us than only a brain and body that dies.
(2) They taught only technique, no value system - or ethics.
After maybe 15 years, I was there when he told us all that after all his NLP experience, he was warning us away from it and its practitioners. He said, "NLP is done without ethics, it is misused, it is doing harm, it is black magic. I officially withdraw all endorsement."
This was someone who, with his skill, could probably have had groupies (disciples? Hey there, Gary's harem over at Access Consciousness!) or gotten rich and famous off it.
Last tidbit: I paid one time only to go to the woman then second to Leslie Bandler for one private appointment. She name-dropped "my friend Leslie" in a high-schooler like manner. I have never seen even a simple master's-degree college counselor get emotional and upset, so unprofessionally like that, at something I said.
Or... is it something I refused to be manipulated by?
