HERE ARE ALL OF THE USEFUL LINKS:
1. The Fight Club call to action (Killing in the Name...):
[youtu.be]
2. The 30-minute undercover footage "documentary":
[youtu.be]
3. The book (2020):
[www.dropbox.com]
4. Dr James Doty of Stanford University blatantly lying about est/Landmark/LGATs:
[youtu.be]
In it he states (starting at about 06:54):
“And if you’ve followed… est… if you’ve seen the power of the Landmark Forum… even today… where hundreds of thousands of lives are changed… you’ll understand this (…) Innumerable studies have been done that have demonstrated… very scientifically… the extraordinary positive effect that est and these types of trainings have really had on people and changed… really millions of lives…”
(Download the video... as I have... as, of course, it will be taken down as soon as this is exposed...)
Here is some information relating to his claims, and my correspondence with Dr Doty regarding these claims:
My Ph.D. research shows that the only peer-reviewed study on est, the Forum, or the Landmark Forum, was an extensive study on the Forum, conducted with the support of Werner Erhard, in 1989 (this was right near the end of est and the Forum… since Landmark was formed in 1991) (Fisher, Silver, Chinsky, Goff, & et al, 1989). It showed that short-term (a few weeks later) positive effects of participation were minimal, and that long-term positive effects were non-existent:
“The short-term outcome analysis revealed that only perceived control was affected by Forum participation, and no long-term treatment effects were observed” (Fisher et al., p. 747).
It can be assumed that Landmark Worldwide would list the most scientific studies providing evidence of its effectiveness on its website (under the section “Independent Research”); however, none of the studies published on its website are peer-reviewed (published in academic journals) and are, quite frankly, laughable… so Dr. Doty’s comment that “Innumerable studies have been done that have demonstrated… very scientifically… the extraordinary positive effect that est and these types of trainings have really had on people and changed… really millions of lives” seemed to be demonstrably untrue. I emailed Dr. Doty on the 10th March 2019 (using a pseudonym… Emmanuel Goldstein… and a different account… egoldstein@yahoo.com) to request that he refer me to some of these “innumerable studies”. His response provides amazing evidence, suggesting that Erhard/Landmark pay authorities (like Raymond Fowler) to endorse them, assuming no one will check.
10 March 15:19
To: jrdoty@stanford.edu; aali@stanford.edu
Dear Dr. Doty
I am interested in the studies you referred to in your talk with Werner Erhard that I saw on youtube. At the moment, the studies I have seen are the ones on the Landmark Worldwide website.
Please let me know where I can find other studies that have ‘demonstrated very scientifically the positive effect that est and these types of trainings have on people.’
Yours sincerely
Emmanuel Goldstein
(Because there was no response in several days, I sent another email)
16 March 09:43
To: jrdoty@stanford.edu; aali@stanford.edu
Dear Dr. Doty
I’m not sure if you missed my last mail (see below)? I’m interested in peer-reviewed studies on the effectiveness of programs like the est training and the Landmark Forum. You said that there were innumerable such studies showing these positive effects, yet I can’t find any. The only peer-reviewed study on the effects of the Forum that I’ve been able to find (Psychological Effects of Participation in a Large Group Awareness Training, 1989, by Fisher et al.) found almost no short-term effects and no long-term effects. Please point me towards some of the studies you referred to when speaking with Werner Erhard
Sincerely,
Emmanuel Goldstein
(He did respond to this email)
16 March 2020 (12:35)
No studies have yet been completed so there is nothing published as well as (t)he final study design and sign off is not complete. I'm not sure where you found the quote, 'demonstrated very scientifically the positive effect that est and these types of trainings have on people.'. It was not from me. I know of no such study; only anecdotal statements.
James R. Doty, M.D.
Professor of Neurosurgery
Founder & Director,
The Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education (CCARE)
Stanford University School of Medicine
(A few minutes later he sent this…)
16 March 2020 (12:37)
If the quote is from me, which I don't recall, it was not true ...
James R. Doty, M.D.
Professor of Neurosurgery
Founder & Director,
The Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education (CCARE)
Stanford University School of Medicine
5. This is a link to a video of me explaining my "religious experience" from the 13th of May 2020, six days after "completing" a book which argues that experiences of God can be explained naturally (i.e. a book that argues that God probably does not exist):
[www.dropbox.com]
6. This is a link to a speech I gave at my best friend's 40th in July last year (I was unaware that it had been filmed and I only received it a few days ago):
[youtu.be]
Below is a link to the book I wrote in 2003/2004 during my first manic episode (unfortunately I don’t still have a soft copy of it, so I just photocopied it yesterday). The aim was to satirise human behaviour – I was intentionally being an ass – and, because I refer to this weird book from 2003/2004 in my recent book (The God Hypothesis), it adds credibility to what I've just written:
[www.dropbox.com]
I'm uncertain if I'm crazy, and I’m quite frightened at the moment, so please forgive me if what I've written or done offends you. This was never my intention. I've only ever tried to help, so if I'm psychotic right now I can only apologise.
1. The Fight Club call to action (Killing in the Name...):
[youtu.be]
2. The 30-minute undercover footage "documentary":
[youtu.be]
3. The book (2020):
[www.dropbox.com]
4. Dr James Doty of Stanford University blatantly lying about est/Landmark/LGATs:
[youtu.be]
In it he states (starting at about 06:54):
“And if you’ve followed… est… if you’ve seen the power of the Landmark Forum… even today… where hundreds of thousands of lives are changed… you’ll understand this (…) Innumerable studies have been done that have demonstrated… very scientifically… the extraordinary positive effect that est and these types of trainings have really had on people and changed… really millions of lives…”
(Download the video... as I have... as, of course, it will be taken down as soon as this is exposed...)
Here is some information relating to his claims, and my correspondence with Dr Doty regarding these claims:
My Ph.D. research shows that the only peer-reviewed study on est, the Forum, or the Landmark Forum, was an extensive study on the Forum, conducted with the support of Werner Erhard, in 1989 (this was right near the end of est and the Forum… since Landmark was formed in 1991) (Fisher, Silver, Chinsky, Goff, & et al, 1989). It showed that short-term (a few weeks later) positive effects of participation were minimal, and that long-term positive effects were non-existent:
“The short-term outcome analysis revealed that only perceived control was affected by Forum participation, and no long-term treatment effects were observed” (Fisher et al., p. 747).
It can be assumed that Landmark Worldwide would list the most scientific studies providing evidence of its effectiveness on its website (under the section “Independent Research”); however, none of the studies published on its website are peer-reviewed (published in academic journals) and are, quite frankly, laughable… so Dr. Doty’s comment that “Innumerable studies have been done that have demonstrated… very scientifically… the extraordinary positive effect that est and these types of trainings have really had on people and changed… really millions of lives” seemed to be demonstrably untrue. I emailed Dr. Doty on the 10th March 2019 (using a pseudonym… Emmanuel Goldstein… and a different account… egoldstein@yahoo.com) to request that he refer me to some of these “innumerable studies”. His response provides amazing evidence, suggesting that Erhard/Landmark pay authorities (like Raymond Fowler) to endorse them, assuming no one will check.
10 March 15:19
To: jrdoty@stanford.edu; aali@stanford.edu
Dear Dr. Doty
I am interested in the studies you referred to in your talk with Werner Erhard that I saw on youtube. At the moment, the studies I have seen are the ones on the Landmark Worldwide website.
Please let me know where I can find other studies that have ‘demonstrated very scientifically the positive effect that est and these types of trainings have on people.’
Yours sincerely
Emmanuel Goldstein
(Because there was no response in several days, I sent another email)
16 March 09:43
To: jrdoty@stanford.edu; aali@stanford.edu
Dear Dr. Doty
I’m not sure if you missed my last mail (see below)? I’m interested in peer-reviewed studies on the effectiveness of programs like the est training and the Landmark Forum. You said that there were innumerable such studies showing these positive effects, yet I can’t find any. The only peer-reviewed study on the effects of the Forum that I’ve been able to find (Psychological Effects of Participation in a Large Group Awareness Training, 1989, by Fisher et al.) found almost no short-term effects and no long-term effects. Please point me towards some of the studies you referred to when speaking with Werner Erhard
Sincerely,
Emmanuel Goldstein
(He did respond to this email)
16 March 2020 (12:35)
No studies have yet been completed so there is nothing published as well as (t)he final study design and sign off is not complete. I'm not sure where you found the quote, 'demonstrated very scientifically the positive effect that est and these types of trainings have on people.'. It was not from me. I know of no such study; only anecdotal statements.
James R. Doty, M.D.
Professor of Neurosurgery
Founder & Director,
The Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education (CCARE)
Stanford University School of Medicine
(A few minutes later he sent this…)
16 March 2020 (12:37)
If the quote is from me, which I don't recall, it was not true ...
James R. Doty, M.D.
Professor of Neurosurgery
Founder & Director,
The Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education (CCARE)
Stanford University School of Medicine
5. This is a link to a video of me explaining my "religious experience" from the 13th of May 2020, six days after "completing" a book which argues that experiences of God can be explained naturally (i.e. a book that argues that God probably does not exist):
[www.dropbox.com]
6. This is a link to a speech I gave at my best friend's 40th in July last year (I was unaware that it had been filmed and I only received it a few days ago):
[youtu.be]
Below is a link to the book I wrote in 2003/2004 during my first manic episode (unfortunately I don’t still have a soft copy of it, so I just photocopied it yesterday). The aim was to satirise human behaviour – I was intentionally being an ass – and, because I refer to this weird book from 2003/2004 in my recent book (The God Hypothesis), it adds credibility to what I've just written:
[www.dropbox.com]
I'm uncertain if I'm crazy, and I’m quite frightened at the moment, so please forgive me if what I've written or done offends you. This was never my intention. I've only ever tried to help, so if I'm psychotic right now I can only apologise.