Some reviews on Amazon by persons who did Real Love course

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1.0 out of 5 starsquestion deeply.
Bymel bellon March 23, 2014

I've done a lot of self-study and read spiritual works extensively. I read his book until I took his real love course. while the peer counselors are supportive and loving and for many people the group/individual work was very cathartic & healing (seemingly), when i went up for my time with him, my hug & talk where i sit in his lap like a child and talk about how i wasn't REAL LOVED as a child....which i have mixed feelings about, he said something that i just can't get past. Greg said "you know i could crush you emotionally if i wanted to?" I said "i know but i trust you not to." you are very vulnerable in his hugging holding process. My thinking brain took over after that...nothing REAL LOVING about his statement. Actually, very EGO driven, POWER oriented...perhaps along the lines of sociopath? There is something deeply manipulative about his statement to me. I'm more commenting on his philosophy in the books, than the book itself...and I've had 6 months to process this. He is not a guru of higher thought that I want to follow.

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Amazon Customer9 months agoIn reply toan earlier postReport abuse
The two are inseparable, because the book tells you to go to his website, attend his seminars, and all his other propaganda.

Amazon Customer9 months agoReport abuse
Need to check out this link:
[forum.culteducation.com]

mel bell10 months ago (Edited)In reply toan earlier postReport abuse
I'm the original author of the review, the review is about the book and the source, i'm not commenting on timely delivery method...and beyond the book are the actions/behaviors that give relevant credibility to the book. i have the perspective of both. I have the responsibility to give my experience. Love the ideology w the book, the real experience...ok, well pragmatically speaking, the experience with him killed the message.. i would add that he brought me to the stage after a convo with one of his phoenix top supporters/counselors...i saw her in the back of the room subtly motioning which people to bring up to stage ( i was near the back). My background is that of a master's level medical professional with a strong psycho-social educational/practical emphasis. The energetic presence of his impressive and seemingly "together" and "well to do" followers moved many toward his message and further coaching or paid coaching time. I would add, there was an Indian woman who went thru his 2-3 day intensive who reported that she really had a break through. I add this bc her culture probably limited her value as a woman, from an American perspective. However, bc you are not valued in one culture, does not mean to find an American Jesus father figure type...but it really helped her. I will also add, that i was very broken at that time having just divorced (HCD) and wrote the review 6 months later, so i HAD PROCESSED MY EXPERIENCE FULLY. From a human perspective, many of us have never been held with love, or listened to with love in the listener's heart. Being shown love unconditionally is probably the biggest breakthrough for many people.

superfreakster1 year agoReport abuse
This review section is about the book not the seminars.

Poppy1 year agoReport abuse
I agree with Mel Bel. The "coaching" appears to be a classic abuse cycle and I recommend checking out cult reporting websites so you know what risks you are choosing to take if you are considering getting involved before your finances and your self esteem are hit. Look at some domestic violence and abuse sites for descriptions and compare with what happens in this scheme. I believe most of the coaches other than Greg & Pete in UK are co-dependent puppets gas-lighted by them into believing in their co-dependency creating scheme.

Greg wrote another book which he described verbally as his life story. In it he describes rolling a large boulder at a building where people gather. He also claims to have operated on people whilst taking drugs and appears totally unconcerned about those facts. I think these actions fit the mold of those personalities who are ruthless and have no conscience or concern for the people they use to their own ends.

I found Greg rude, arrogant, manipulative and egocentric and he only delivers to the point where the money runs out. I think Greg and Pete are preying on vulnerable and unhappy people using them for narcissistic supply. In other circles this is called 'emotional abuse.' Telling 'truths' amounts to extracting information for later use. I would read some books about cults, co-dependency and personality disorders before anything written by this author and his associates.

Ria1 year agoReport abuse
ys I agree -- Greg is seemingly into power and money and maybe he has convinced himself he is into real love ?-- anyway, very simply "It's not what people say' it's how you feel around them' if you felt uncomfortable then he's not for you! I know people that did feel comfortable on his lap! each to their own - but for me it smacks of cult and control and that's the opposite of real love!
and also, his so called coaches, most have no background on therapy - and they apparently tell you what to think and how to behave! again very controlling and take power from the vulnerable!- so it would attract a lot of loners and people with "i don't belong injunctions' (TA) and perfectionists -- well, each to his own - life is about experiences - just don't sell your soul to some!

mel bell1 year ago (Edited)In reply toan earlier postReport abuse
We have the key for deep healing within us....and true SELF LOVE. In my opinion, Greg is a false prophet with the "Jesus complex" to be able to lay his hands on to "heal". Real love comes from self love with a grounded sense self, and self compassion.

Ria2 years agoIn reply toan earlier postReport abuse
I agree with you -- the system is flawed and gets people hooked in by saying they can only get love from others ie the system very cult like-- i know a few who are! and shelling out $$$ to keep GB in luxury lifestyle!

soundproofme2 years agoReport abuse
Thanks for sharing your experience, Mel, it means a lot :)

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1.0 out of 5 starsNo training... shakey advice
ByFrida Kon January 8, 2014
Format: Paperback

I loved the books, but when I met the man, he was a total flake. His idea of counseling was that I had to sit on his lap, call him daddy, and repeat after him that I loved him and trusted him. This was AFTER he got $5000 cash deposited into his bank. If you had so much as a question, the session was over, he took the money, and we were done. He has a million dollar house, swimming pool and lake that all of us fools are funding. Real love was a an expensive mistake.... a real sad joke.

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Texas Wren3 months agoReport abuse
Thank you for commenting on this. I AM credentialed as a counselor and had a client who mentioned going to this retreat. She described the author as critical on the follow-up Skype sessions they had. I have investigated and determined that he has no training. Being an MD does not qualify you to practice psychotherapy thinly veiled as coaching.

ABR2 years agoReport abuse
Went there myself and felt the same. Save your money...don't buy the book nor go to his seminars. He truly has the MD = GOD complex!

soundproofme2 years ago (Edited)Report abuse
Thanks for your review, this guy sounds like a freak.... needless to say I won't be buying the book!
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.0 out of 5 starsTrue Real Love should not be a money business
ByLolaveneziaon December 26, 2012
Format: Paperback

I live in Europe and I was advised to read this book by a colleague, a fervent fan of Dr Baer. The reading is easy, the topic well explained, everything seems easy to understand. However there starts the problem: Dr Baer's wiew is one-way and simplistic: you apply his technique and you're promised to find real love. You don't and you're doomed (according to his sayings). Not really balanced thinking.

But I wanted to know more about it, and I was advised by Dr Baer himself to follow 2 days individual seminar with him in the US, in order to help me be 'really loved' for the very first time in my life. However the costs, several thousands dollars for a 2 days 'intervention', as it is called, were too expensive for me. I had just discovered that, for some people, real love is not free of charge, and represents a huge business machine. I was then oriented to dr Baer's "certified real love coach" (ha!) in the UK, where i went for a 2 days individual face to face seminar. The price was still substantially high, but i was ready to try it for the better, or for the worse. During the session the coach tells you THE truth about yourself (this is pretty scary how some people think there is only one truth - theirs)and you finally end up feeling a hint of real love at the end of the seminar.

It is just after that that the worse occurs when, during follow up telconfs, you're "lovingly advised" to leave your loved ones and to rely exclusively on the real love of the coach himself, and of Greg Baer's. This is the 'ouch' part. You're 'lovingly' proposed to do more costly seminars. I have also been further requested to provide a testimonial for their marketing brochure. This was too extreme and sectarist for me. This is the reason for this factualm testimonial. I still believe real love should not be marketed. Look around you and you will see love for free in a child's smile. We all know true real lovers (Mother theresa, sister emmanuelle, etc) and they are non profit people. Exactly the contrary of the author of this book.
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Joshuaad1 year agoReport abuse
The idea that love and spirituality are not compatible with business, money and charging for services and seminars is absolutely misguided and false.

mel bell1 year agoReport abuse
I posted a review earlier...I would add, the folks who went to the intensive private 2 day...claimed it really worked for them...the was a sense about them of having been brainwashed, perhaps they needed that to heal.

The real love facilitators are typically not trained counsellors, tho they are being paid to coach other people, and they've got a card. Their training or background is not typically in the mental health field...to deal with the more complexmental health disorders.

RD1 year agoReport abuse
If coaching is free, there is no value to most people.When we spend money, we tend to take things seriously. This is human psychology. Also, we are willing to spend a lot of money on vacations, cars etc., but complain about spending on something that changes our lives' for good. Most of us as parents have no clue what unconditional love means and how to raise children. We can choose to complain about anything in life OR learn something from experienced people to become a better.

Ria2 years agoReport abuse
I just posted one myself -- it's flawed in many ways and an ideology that people can't sustain! it will attract people who are vulnerable. The ideas are all from basic therapies , like TA - 12 steps etc. so that will make sense to many - but people will get hooked in by thinking they can only seek love outside themselves always being told off they aren't 'in real love' -- find it in yourself through quiet meditation and heal your heart in some good trusted therapies like 'transpersonal' TA gestalt etc. where they give you 'tools' to help yourself- not rescue you like a lost baby !

Ria2 years ago In reply toan earlier postReport abuse

have a look at this site: [forum.culteducation.com]

a warning to this cult like system !

1.0 out of 5 starsTerrible book
ByMiguel Angel Gonzalezon July 27, 2016

Please do not read this book unless you want to break up with your partner. Leaving you partner is very encouraged in this book. I am an honest person and have a great capacity of loving unconditionally. But will never accept my husband flirting and looking at other women all the time, and having close emotional relationships with other women. We were working on our issues and he was compromising, but when he read this book, he said that I was jealous and that I did not accept him unconditionally. I know I am better off, but for God Sake's be more clear about what a wise woman is, and about compromise and sacrifice in a relationship. If a conduct is hurtful and disrespectful I believe partners should compromise. I am telling the truth, I threw this book away, along with me relationship. Thank you!!!

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1.0 out of 5 starsDo not buy this book
ByABRon January 30, 2013
Format: Paperback|Verified Purchase

Sad, but I initally bought this book thinking it would help my marriage. I read it and was impressed and joined a Real Love group which I attended for almost a year, but soon realized that people were dropping out like flies. Gossip runs rampant in the Real Love Groups. His "finding a wise person" is just not a help. He's asking other people to love you when you make a mistake, which doesn't work.....and the one you want to love you is your spouse when you make a mistake. I actually met Dr. Baer and counseled with him along with my wife, and when I wasn't doing what he thought I should be doing he turned on me and started agreeing with my wife. It got to the point one time where he was at my house and was telling my wife that he was going to kick me out of my own house when I got home!

Unfortunately, he's an ophthalmologist (MD) and has the MD=God thought.....he thinks because he has MD after his name that he is now a trained marriage counselor and psychologist/psychiatrist.

His wife is a gossip and talks bad about people behind their backs....especially people who work in the Real Love camp. How's that for example.

I've also read several books that were written well before Dr. Baer wrote Real Love that are eeringly similar....sad what people will do to make a buck after they become drug addicts.

Don't waste your money. Go for something that is written by a trained marriage counselor or trained psychologist/psychologist. Go read the scriptures.....that's where you'll find how to really love people and yourself!