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Re: quote, unquote "Real Love" - $$$

Apparently all this 'unconditional love' that is traded for money really is REAL. It's a trade. We all know that therefore it cannot be unconditional because the conditions underpinning this trade is the transference of money from one person to another for the act of 'getting loved'. But it is 'real' and 'unconditional' love that is being given because the Baer's in the US and the Uglow's in the UK have given up their day jobs to exclusively love people all day. They could all train as coaches counsellors and/or therapists and get qualified and earn a living loving people in the RealLove way just like the specially qualified and approved coaches are by Greg. Yet no. They are dedicating their lives to giving love - which they are not doing for money. No you see because the money bit is for their time. But if loving like anything else is going to take time to accomplish then the act of loving and the use of time to do this are done hand in hand - one with the other. So there HAS been a trade off. All the charity that is collected the coerced donations to the RealLove Foundation etc. are to financially support the Baer's and the Uglow's. They can keep saying that it is all unconditional but it is not.

Let's note the meaning of the word 'unconditional' which states that "Something that is unconditional is done or given to someone freely without anything in return". Like the rest of the so called "insane" world that Greg and RealLovers call the people not doing RealLove we all do love naturally authentically spontaneously and are genuinely inspired in a moment or compelled to do acts of love (in all the different ways there are too) often and mostly without thinking about it. THAT is unconditional love. The act of freely expressing it without knowing it - just doing it. Not thinking about it. Just doing it. And certainly not making sure that you are abiding by a set of principles devised by someone because that someone said "this is how you do it this is the way to do and be unconditionally loving". Bullshit. It happens naturally. Granted there are people who are going through bad days or having a bad period in their life are ordinarily grumpy or angry or whatever but that does not tar every single person as doing it all wrong. People in RealLove will never get it. That 'they' themselves are the worst critics and judges of everyone else and are separating themselves from the whole of what their life is providing them merely because of what one man says. That is one of the differences between cults and other organisations teaching the same ideals. No one else says it is our way or the highway only cults do that. Only cults say that their way is the right and only way and that everyone else is wrong. Only cults separate and divide society into the 'them and us' mindset.

Being loving or selling your unconditional love as some form of day job (for money from a fake charity) is a truly insane concept. These people are NOT being truly unconditionally loving at all. If they were they would be doing what scores of people do all over the world and work a day job like the rest of us (in order to pay our way) and in our own 'free time' give that love away for nothing. This is done in volunteering groups and with organisations like the Samaritans and countless others. People give their free time outside of their work and family commitments to dedicate time to providing the love that is needed in the world. Then genuine article and not in exchange for money.

I am shocked at how many times RL people and certainly in Greg's books the concept of love and unconditional love is perceived and spoken about as being a 'commodity' which is an insult and a direct exploitation of perfect love. Love is not a commodity. One book says "Where do you get unconditional love?" and the answer Greg gives is "From those who already have it!". But love is not a commodity not a possession not a thing to be traded. In its true spontaneous divinely inspired form no one not a single person is thinking about whether or not they should give love at that moment in case their bucket runs out. NEVER. Because we are never empty of love. Such an insane concept - but so many people get sucked in. And once they are truly brainwashed they have no idea what crap they are saying. They just keep talking shit. All this claptrap about "You can only be unconditionally loving if you are doing RealLove" Rubbish.

The concept of Greg having been given RealLove from God. Yeah right! God would write diatribe that promotes an organisation to make a profit out of selling so-called unconditional love. That people need to seek it to get it - when they are already full of love and always will be. It is us that chooses not to give our love - we are never empty. Would anyone's God (of any faith group or religion) really accept statements such as this "RealLove (copyright trademark registered - principles as devised by Greg Baer) is the only thing that will make you genuinely happy" "Without RealLove (copyright trademark registered - principles devised by Greg Baer) sex will only lead us away from feeling unconditionally loved". So outsiders are told that every act of love that we naturally express - a touch - a glance - a hug - helping - sharing - gentle or supportive words - acts of service - apologies - smiles - gifts - laughter - acts of kindness - showing compassion - expressing empathy - etc is all fake and conditional. We ALL need to have RL in our lives and learn to be loved first in order to be capable of doing all of this. And what's Greg's big secret - its just sharing all aspects about who you are and what you've done!! Truths - lies - needs - flaws - strengths - weaknesses - fears etc.. and we all do this anyway!! Maybe some people just need to do more of it.

Nothing Greg has written in his books is new. He has just invented a money making scheme to feed off of vulnerable people and get all his financial needs taken care of without doing much (he even has pages set up to raise money for his medical expenses!). Being loving is NOT a job. We can all do this every minute of every day of our entire lives. No one needs to make a job of it. He gives no credit to any of the sources which he has exploited. And none of his broad sweeping claims can be confirmed.

Having read several books on cults now - RealLove most definitely IS A CULT.

People doing RealLove fully believe that people will come out of this cult a better person. Yet as all the researchers exit counsellors and everyone who has worked with cult organisations knows - no one comes out happy and whole and feeling great. They all need a huge amount of work to get their minds back. This makes me so sad indeed - seeing and hearing people that are so far gone that they have no idea what rubbish they are saying and what they are defending. It breaks my heart to have conversations with people with whom you cannot get through to. To see people who are too frightened and fearful of having relations with their own family or with anyone not doing RealLove - only people doing RL are worthy of being accepted as a human being everyone else is a nothing and worthless to them. If only I could record what I hear so I could play it back in the future. If only people who eventually leave cults and start a healing journey could hear their own rubbish and realise how very very very deceptively easy it is to manipulate the mind into believing anything. To believe such lies and claptrap. Heartbreaking and what true waste of people's lives. All the people on this message thread and the other one on this site that have come forward about what has happened to their loved one's at the hands of RealLove breaks my heart. There are evil doings going on in this world thanks to sociopaths and narcissistic personalities.

I hope more people keep coming forward and this cult is exposed one day.

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