With respect to ICF in particular, I can only say that while the number of ICF-credentialed LCs does seem to rival the hidden credentialling of LCs by the CoS (in Hollywood), the levels of sophistication -- and market penetration -- do not not seem to be what they are among the latter group (which isn't real "sophisticated," either, actually). Frankly, if one is really egregiously ruthless about fast-tracking a bullet train to corporate success in this manner, they'd be better off to find some of rats who jumped ship from Amway and Herbalife.
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Thanks for this, but disagree with regard to Asia. I believe the minion sold Landmark 'technology' to entrepreneurs in Japan, and China. In the case of China, there emerged the largest 'coaching company' in the world...maybe tens of thousands of glassy-eyed members. This entity was later shut down by the Chinese government, CULT. Japan has a similar but smaller problem, which persists. These coaching schools and coaching companies all encourage members to join the ICF, and then participate in ICF training.
Marketing to corporate HR has been completely RUTHLESS, in all locations. It is very difficult for even highly qualified coaches to obtain work w/o ICF certification. Many universities are now also affiliated with the ICF. I agree that on the service it does not look that sophisticated, but, they are absolutely dominant in all but a few countries.
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Thanks for this, but disagree with regard to Asia. I believe the minion sold Landmark 'technology' to entrepreneurs in Japan, and China. In the case of China, there emerged the largest 'coaching company' in the world...maybe tens of thousands of glassy-eyed members. This entity was later shut down by the Chinese government, CULT. Japan has a similar but smaller problem, which persists. These coaching schools and coaching companies all encourage members to join the ICF, and then participate in ICF training.
Marketing to corporate HR has been completely RUTHLESS, in all locations. It is very difficult for even highly qualified coaches to obtain work w/o ICF certification. Many universities are now also affiliated with the ICF. I agree that on the service it does not look that sophisticated, but, they are absolutely dominant in all but a few countries.
