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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

One thing to ponder is, you have to ask whether the risk is worth it. If you have friends and especially if you have a partner and children, they'll be affected if you are harmed.There is no way to be...

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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

Corboy and kdag,Thank you very much for the detailed and thoughtful response!It gives me a lot to think about. I'm a skeptic by nature, I never fall into believing conspiracies, weird beliefs, or...

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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

Almost forgot—to put this in better context, I want to do a video about it. Eight years ago, I did one about the Secret. I haven't don't any side-projects for a long time, but I've maintained video...

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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

To add to what kdag and Corboy say:Landmark also play this trick. They say things like, - "we don't do X or we don't do Y."Since researching my experience after leaving their programme, I've...

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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

Just knowing or hearing that Landmark has power can be seductive.The question is, what kind of power?That power is linked to the specific social environment created by Landmark (and other LGATs using...

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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

Power is beguiling! But I think it's more the mystery, the hidden aspect, the fact that such a big phenomenon has almost disappeared with so little conversation over the last decade that gets me...

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Re: (Morbid?) curiosity about LGATs

SirReal:It really doesn't feel all that "mysterious" when you're sitting in the middle of it. It's a lot like listening to a motivational speaker.  If you were to go strictly as an observer, then you...

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Re: quote, unquote "Real Love" - $$$

Unconditional love means being loved by someone who gets nothing in return and expects nothing in return. If they get something in return it is simply a business trade, so there is no thought that...

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Re: quote, unquote "Real Love" - $$$

Why is this dependence on others to love you wrong? This idea of getting others to love you, why is it wrong?Because the whole idea with love is that it is about you being loving. It doesn't matter...

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Re: Quest (Johannesburg South Africa)

Hi Everybody, my daughter attended all the workshops i.e turning point, joyspring and the mile. She is going through chronic depression as well as paranoia and all sorts. We've managed to change her...

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Re: Quest (Johannesburg South Africa)

Lastsmile,I don't know of any specialists, and I'm no expert. Still, I am wondering if you can get her into evaluation/treatment for just the depression, while you are waiting for more info, and maybe...

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Re: Quest (Johannesburg South Africa)

Thank you for response kdag...This past week has been very traumatic for the family. My daughter is now on psychotic meds. at home. Thankfully we managed to get her out of the home to see a...

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Re: Landmark's health warnings

In a very late response to the first post on his thread:"Note they even ask you what you intend to accomplish and then tell you that there is no suggestion or guarantee that you will get those...

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Re: Quest (Johannesburg South Africa)

See [culteducation.com]Large group awareness training has historically produced psychiatric disturbances. You might want to share this study with your daughter's doctors.See [cultsinsideout.com]The...

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Re: Landmark and Fight Club

Hi DL! Sane person here letting you know that you totally nailed it here. My parents were heavily involved in est when I was growing up and only now am I piecing together the damage it did to our...

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Re: Landmark and Fight Club

Reportedly it was just as weird inside Erhard's San Francisco digs.Read here from someone who was an est graduate and worked in Erhard's library.[forum.culteducation.com]

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Re: Landmark and Fight Club

Wow.. Thanks Corboy!! I hadn't read that piece yet. Yeah, weird indeed. Exactly what you'd expect from a man who demonized morality and the human conscience.

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Re: Landmark and Fight Club

Here's one of the best things ever posted to alt.fan.landmark. I've reposted it several times. I don't think she'd mind. You can pull up her other posts over there.Newsgroups: alt.fan.landmarkDate: 9...

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Re: Landmark and Fight Club

Thank you ellenaaa!! Grizz's post rings so close to home it brought tears and made me feel a little less alone. My parents joined est the year i was born so my brother and I knew no other reality...

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Re: Landmark and Fight Club

If you decide to set up a support group, it might be a good idea toestablish a vetting process. Here on CEI message board, some est or Landmarksympathizers actually gave misleading information to...

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