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The Seedy Underbelly of Est

A disturbing and thought provoking article about some of the things Est has led to rationalisation of.In the case of this strip club that sent staff to Est, more or less turning people into...

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From the link posted by StopLGATs:"Toloui is of the latter group. She explains, 'They would break you down then build you back up again with all of these ideas about how to manipulate others and how...

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Interesting find!The 'rationalization' factor in 'est' and other LGAT's is WHY I am following the Epstein matter and following it as a hybrid form of group dynamics training.With Epstein, we have the...

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Bakkagirl wrote: "It would be very interesting to learn if 'est' was trialed in other sex trade organizations in the 70's, or later."It's also probably worth bearing in mind that, as we know, Est...

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Please don't post links to Wikileaks and conspiracy theories here. It's not helpful and Wikileaks is not a reliable source.

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Re: The Seedy Underbelly of Est

The document I posted was a 'DECLASSIFIED' U.S. State Department:TRANSCRIPT OF THAT PART OF THE NOON PRESS BRIEFING DEALING WITH GUYANA, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 1978Date:1978 November 30, 00:00...

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Re: Looking for anecdotal accounts from LGAT victims, familiy members of...

Beyond the Harvard case study dispute you mention, those, and other institutions have hosted Erhard as a speaker and provided Landmark with laboratory and other resources for 'research'. He/Landmark...

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Re: The Seedy Underbelly of Est

bakkagirl:Please stay on topic. This thread is about EST not Jonestown.No conspiracy theories posts here please.It is widely known that Erhard drew from both Esalen and and Scientology as well as...

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Re: The Seedy Underbelly of Est

Dear mmoderator:Thanks for your post and the links.I have probably been insufficiently clear in my posts about Jonestown. The point I was trying to make is that as Jonestown and other cultic...

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Re: LGAT Comedy Corner - The Passion of Werner Erhard

I'm just gonna leave this here. More from J.P. Sears, (comedian). Describes LGAT mentality to a "T," (and sadly, many of the people in the current "Nuage movement")."Intelligent people don't know how...

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Re: LGAT Comedy Corner - The Passion of Werner Erhard

Bakkagirl,Great commentary, LOL. I love his T-shirt in the first one.I see Andrew looking uncomfortable and seemingly trying to wiggle his way out. I didn't hear anything that screamed "Landmark...

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Re: LGAT Comedy Corner - The Passion of Werner Erhard

bakkagirl:Conspiracy theories about Epstein are not funny and have nothing to do with Landmark. Please stay on topic and don't post links to unrelated subjects. Such posts are a violation of the rules...

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Re: LGAT Comedy Corner - The Passion of Werner Erhard

To be clear,I think the Epstein matter is as funny as a heart attack, or an AID's diagnosis.As far as 'conspiracy' theories are concerned, I believe I suggested elsewhere in this forum that there are...

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Looking for academic work on Landmark

I am a professor contemplating doing some research on the workings and impact of Landmark, and the penetration of Erhard's ideas within academia. As a first step, I plan to complete a review of what...

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LGATs and Fight Club: Dissecting a Delusion

Illustrated essay on the way that Chuck Palahniuk and David Fincher were satirising the LGAT industry (Werner Erhard, est, The Forum, Landmark, and the Landmark Forum) in Fight...

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Re: Looking for anecdotal accounts from LGAT victims, familiy members of...

Dr Raymond Fowler is often mentioned by Landmark, and he personally endorsed them in 1999. (You can find this endorsement on the Landmark Worldwide site, and you can hear him being cited by one of the...

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Re: Looking for anecdotal accounts from LGAT victims, familiy members of...

Thank you, EGOLDSTEIN,I remember reference to this fellow in a certain dissertation. I will be categorizing Dr. Fowler as an aider and abettor.This is a long list, as you know, and they do have blood...

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Re: Looking for anecdotal accounts from LGAT victims, familiy members of...

And, may I say a little more on the 'technologies'...I joined the world of people and organization development because I wanted to participate in a field that required continuous learning on my...

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Re: Looking for anecdotal accounts from LGAT victims, familiy members of...

Here is a/THE incubus of Landmark abettors.[www.esalen.org]As I read this 1967 article on Esalen, I thought, "This is my image of HELL on earth."Free-wheeling 'ID', in isolation.Definitely a PR piece...

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Re: Looking for anecdotal accounts from LGAT victims, familiy members of...

...and it's all for this!:"'The standard est training promises to transform the capacity to experience life so that one is more satisfied with life as it is' (Sayre 1977)."Above quote from page 11 of...

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