Huge thank you to formerimpactgrad and Catbus for the information in this quoted part of this post. I have my wife in the middle of the summit "training" and she has been very hard to communicate with in any capacity. Is there anyone here that has some more details on what happens during the summit class? I need to know what to expect when she comes home from this. I am grateful to anyone that can help. I have read through most of this thread as well as others on the internet and the secretive nature of these "trainings" is what worries me the most. Thank you in advance.
formerimpactgrad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Catbus,
>
> In response to your earlier questions here is a
> very rough (and unfortunately short) schedule for
> Quest and Summit that should line up with your
> wife's manic-depressive mood swings:
>
> Quest:
>
> Day 1 - The trainees spend the entire day getting
> chewed out. There are several processes but the
> end result of each one is that the group and
> certain individuals get chewed out over and over
> and over. I'll leave it open for others to fill
> in the specific processes, if they so desire, but
> since the end result of all of them is the same on
> this day I see little reason to distinguish one
> from another.
>
> Day 2 - Much like Day 1 the string of lectures and
> processes has the intended result of tearing apart
> the trainees. This day ends with the "Feedback
> Arcs" exercise that most trainees seem to remember
> as the low point in Quest and the Impact Trainings
> as a whole (unless they move on to the TIT series
> and watch people flush their whole lives down the
> toilet because they want to act like children,
> that was the most depressing part for me).
>
> Day 3 - Begins with a few hours of open mike where
> most trainees say something like, "I couldn't
> sleep last night because..." or "Last night was
> the worst night of my life because...". A few
> songs are played and several lectures are given to
> move the group into a frame of mind suitable for
> the chair beating exercise. The chair beating
> leads into the "Inner Child" phase which leads to
> dancing, running and finally horrific singing at
> the end of the day. Everybody leaves with smiles
> on their faces ready to return for the final day
> of Quest.
>
> Day 4 - Begins with several lectures on God and
> sometimes Hans makes a ridiculous claim or two
> (like his assertion that it was the TIT 3 group's
> use of the violet flame that stopped the Show Low,
> AZ wild fires. Thank you AZ fire departments for
> risking your lives but apparently you were not
> needed after all...). The day ends with a
> hard-sell summit enrollment exercise and finally
> graduation.
>
>
> Summit:
>
> Day 1 - Much like the beginning of Quest, Summit's
> initial exercises are all about tearing down the
> group. Several small group exercises are used to
> gather intensely personal and sensitive
> information about the trainees then this
> information is used in an exercise later on to
> assign condescending nicknames that the trainees
> are required to use when referring to others and
> themselves (For example, a woman who admits to
> being sexually abused by a family member might end
> up with the nickname "Daddy's Joy Toy"). The day
> ends with the lifeboat exercise where the trainees
> leave after experiencing the joy of visualizing
> their own deaths.
>
> Day 2 - Like Day 3 of Quest, this day starts low
> then builds toward the "Katharsis" process (which
> is essentially the chair beating exercise on
> steroids). From there the inner children are
> brought back and trainees come up with their
> "contracts", Pamela dances, the staff dances and
> the "People Don't Change" lecture is offered as
> gospel. At the end of this day the trainees are
> given stretches (essentially skits intended to
> allow the trainees to express something about
> themselves, for example a group of heavyset women
> will have to dress and behave as cows then
> transform into 10 tons of crazy belly dancing).
>
> Day 3 - Stretch Day. Trainees show up in costume
> and dance. Everyone performs their skits and the
> day ends with the feast and footwashing
> exercises.
>
> Day 4 - I honestly don't remember much from this
> day except for the hard-sell lift off exercise and
> graduation.
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, hope this makes the pieces fit for you
> Catbus!
formerimpactgrad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Catbus,
>
> In response to your earlier questions here is a
> very rough (and unfortunately short) schedule for
> Quest and Summit that should line up with your
> wife's manic-depressive mood swings:
>
> Quest:
>
> Day 1 - The trainees spend the entire day getting
> chewed out. There are several processes but the
> end result of each one is that the group and
> certain individuals get chewed out over and over
> and over. I'll leave it open for others to fill
> in the specific processes, if they so desire, but
> since the end result of all of them is the same on
> this day I see little reason to distinguish one
> from another.
>
> Day 2 - Much like Day 1 the string of lectures and
> processes has the intended result of tearing apart
> the trainees. This day ends with the "Feedback
> Arcs" exercise that most trainees seem to remember
> as the low point in Quest and the Impact Trainings
> as a whole (unless they move on to the TIT series
> and watch people flush their whole lives down the
> toilet because they want to act like children,
> that was the most depressing part for me).
>
> Day 3 - Begins with a few hours of open mike where
> most trainees say something like, "I couldn't
> sleep last night because..." or "Last night was
> the worst night of my life because...". A few
> songs are played and several lectures are given to
> move the group into a frame of mind suitable for
> the chair beating exercise. The chair beating
> leads into the "Inner Child" phase which leads to
> dancing, running and finally horrific singing at
> the end of the day. Everybody leaves with smiles
> on their faces ready to return for the final day
> of Quest.
>
> Day 4 - Begins with several lectures on God and
> sometimes Hans makes a ridiculous claim or two
> (like his assertion that it was the TIT 3 group's
> use of the violet flame that stopped the Show Low,
> AZ wild fires. Thank you AZ fire departments for
> risking your lives but apparently you were not
> needed after all...). The day ends with a
> hard-sell summit enrollment exercise and finally
> graduation.
>
>
> Summit:
>
> Day 1 - Much like the beginning of Quest, Summit's
> initial exercises are all about tearing down the
> group. Several small group exercises are used to
> gather intensely personal and sensitive
> information about the trainees then this
> information is used in an exercise later on to
> assign condescending nicknames that the trainees
> are required to use when referring to others and
> themselves (For example, a woman who admits to
> being sexually abused by a family member might end
> up with the nickname "Daddy's Joy Toy"). The day
> ends with the lifeboat exercise where the trainees
> leave after experiencing the joy of visualizing
> their own deaths.
>
> Day 2 - Like Day 3 of Quest, this day starts low
> then builds toward the "Katharsis" process (which
> is essentially the chair beating exercise on
> steroids). From there the inner children are
> brought back and trainees come up with their
> "contracts", Pamela dances, the staff dances and
> the "People Don't Change" lecture is offered as
> gospel. At the end of this day the trainees are
> given stretches (essentially skits intended to
> allow the trainees to express something about
> themselves, for example a group of heavyset women
> will have to dress and behave as cows then
> transform into 10 tons of crazy belly dancing).
>
> Day 3 - Stretch Day. Trainees show up in costume
> and dance. Everyone performs their skits and the
> day ends with the feast and footwashing
> exercises.
>
> Day 4 - I honestly don't remember much from this
> day except for the hard-sell lift off exercise and
> graduation.
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, hope this makes the pieces fit for you
> Catbus!