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Re: Does LGAT Facilitate Pedophilia and Other Forms of Sexual Abuse?

Bakka wrote:"... (BTW, Jeffrey Epstein was in the quote, unquote leadership development business, and via the Wexner Foundation), and the Esalen, Erhard/est, LGAT crowd of days of yore."Do you think...

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What Do You Notice in Friends/Family Who Have Done Landmark?

A question I want to ask as a standalone thread because all of the (hype for want of a better word) about LF is about how life transforming and revolutionary it is.My disclaimer I haven't done...

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Re: What Do You Notice in Friends/Family Who Have Done Landmark?

Where to begin?I had met my recruiter in a 12-step group, a couple of years before she did Landmark. These were the changes I noticed in her:She went from being an honest person to being someone who...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

....Say, bakkagirl,You're not drinking any of that scientology Kool-Aid, are you?[tonyortega.org]

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

No politics.Against the rules agreed to before posting at this message board.

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

I would say this is a fair, and a-political question.To answer it, my perceptions of the fields of psychology and psychiatry have been mainly formed through my professional and personal experience of...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

Hi Rick,With regard to political messages expressed in the context of anti-cult organizations, I can report that I canceled my attendance at ICSA's U.K. conference because conference papers that had...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

StopLGATs wrote:"Really I think there's probably not a lot of difference from the same type of crowd manipulation that had thousands of people raising their hands and chanting "Sieg Heil" at...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

KDAG wrote in her points above:Accepting revisionist history. (In part by gaslighting)which, hits a nerve for me in terms of my quest to understand what happened to my field, coaching.In this case, I...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

Taking Landmark and the French Documentary as an example, I've seen pro-Landmark trolling posts (a few years old on this board and elsewhere) claiming the journalism was unprofessional, biased and...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

StopLGATs,I appreciate your line of reasoning, but the cult/not a cult debate can go on FOREVER, has gone on forever.Lining up expert witnesses to designate Landmark 'a cult' will not, I fear,...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

BakkagirlI agree and I actually think the French documentary about Landmark focused too much on the cult angle and not on the actual practices themselves. Cults are not illegal per se at least in most...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

Obviously, I don't disagree with anything you say.That said, you may want to explain to me why all of these 'geniuses' in the academy have ignored the fact that Erhard's LGAT (I consider him/'est'...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

StopLGATs wrote:"A dental hygienist isn't allowed to treat athlete's foot, a homeopathist can't test your eyesight for prescription glasses. A neurologist can't remove your appendix. All of these need...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

Yes #7 is a very peculiar thing to say about what is described in #2Why would a "philosophical" "discussion" seminar have to say that it's not a substitute for therapy and that it's not run by mental...

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

Yes - it's like offering herb tea, and then surreptitiously slipping in some substance to perform a chemical lobotomy.

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Re: I am Not Your Guru

StopLGAT's wrote:"As far as I'm aware these are psychology methods that are long-discredited and now deemed unethical (or at least ethically dubious) - even in an academic experimental environment...

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"brain washing in a godless big business cult"

Probably the most disturbing account of Landmark I've heard yet. Not so much what she says (I'm sure most of us have read worse descriptions) but the emotion that comes across in the...

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Re: "brain washing in a godless big business cult"

Chilling, yes!!!Having been involved with the corporate training world for a very long time, I can say that what this woman describes deviates from everything 'normal'.That these participants are...

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Re: "brain washing in a godless big business cult"

Bakkagirl wrote:"That these participants are asked to sign waivers, and NDA's is a big RED FLAG.I always figure that what people do with their own time, well, it is caveat emptor, ..."I definitely see...

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