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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

Sportsguy,I'm sorry you're in pain. You are in the company of many. My experience is also with LEC, but sounds like it would also apply to other LGATS.To answer your question about narcisism, and I...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

* I should have added the qualifier, "In my humble opinion." :-}

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

kdag,Thanks for sharing this insight into Landmark.I had a chill reading it because I remembered someone coming up and whispering in my ear that I make a great introduction leader. [The ilp programme...

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Language in Action by S.I. Hayakawa - Werner musta read this

Corboy dares wonder whether one author that could have given Jack Rosenberg (aka Werner Erhard) some inspiration was Ayn Rand (Objectivism, The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged.) Ayn Rand gave a lot of...

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Re: Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes

I took DC probably around 1981 - I was sixteen. I still can't believe my parents gave permission as they definitely did not investigate it.One of the EST people we knew wanted me to do DC. My whole...

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Re: Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes

Not knowing this got posted, I just re-posted it!Yes, I look back and can't believe this s&&&. I did EST when I was thirteen as well. More weird stuff there as well. I quit when EST...

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Re: Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes

terramaid wrote:Quote I had the impression that this was done on purpose, but I have no idea why.To break us down or make us feel vulnerable?I am just guessing, I know nothing.* Perhaps this was done...

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Re: Language in Action by S.I. Hayakawa - Werner musta read this

I heartily recommend Language in Thought and Action to anyone who wants keep their minds nimble and alert. It is a terrific gift for students from 9th grade onwards, all the way to graduate school and...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

Friends, just in case this is useful, here is something about books thatWerner Erhard may have studied.You may be able to identify the source of some 'Landmarkianisms'.[forum.culteducation.com]

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Re: Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes

terramaid Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I showed up in Philly to do this, the center> itself looked like a cult lair. People were living> upstairs, it was...

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Re: Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes

Thanks for reminding us of that.Things were a lot more freewheeling 35 to 40 years ago.Things slowed down a tiny bit by 1979; people thought it was the end of the world if they got herpes.(Slow shake...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

@Gloria,SELP =Self-Expression and Leadership Program. I wasn't in it, but knew people who were. I'm glad you got out when you did.They kept trying to get me into the ILP as well. I told them I wasn't...

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Re: Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes

corboy Wrote:------------------------------------------------------->> Things slowed down a tiny bit by 1979; people> thought it was the end of the world if they got> herpes.>> (Slow...

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Re: Language in Action by S.I. Hayakawa - Werner musta read this

corboy,I think you hit the nail on the head with language being key. By redefining every word, they can seemingly make certain concepts less offensive to their adherents than they would be to the...

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Re: Language in Action by S.I. Hayakawa - Werner musta read this

In Language in Thought and Action, Hayakawa tells us that we are not directly taught the definitions of most of the words we use.We learn most of our vocabulary by hearing and then reading words used...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

Here's a little gem:"No” is a word that must never be negotiated, because the person who chooses not to hear it is trying to control you."~ Gavin de Becker, "The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That...

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Query for LGAT survivors - use of laughter

Friends, here is a new topic that might be worth exploring.Use of laughter in the LGAT groups you observed.* How often was laughter used?* All days? Some of the days? Which days?* Some times, much of...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

You got that right.Here's a warning: some slick types can turn our No into a Yes by teasing usand joking with us until we laugh.Once we laugh, it is much more difficult to continue to say no.So...here...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

First page of discussions about LGAT room setup here:[forum.culteducation.com]Another page, containing an extensive quotation from an articlewhich described an analysed the Landmark room set up -...

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Re: I think i lost my gf to an LGAT. Does depression follow lgat seminars for...

More discussion here:[forum.culteducation.com]and here[forum.culteducation.com]Right after the discussion where "Corboy" urged readers and discussantsto stay focused on the LGAT room set up, that this...

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